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April 13th

April 13th

Postby gerbil on Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:24 am

A bit of a poor weekend restoration wise, with the Weather Gods having the odd sob, maybe after having a look at my attempts of boat rebuilding :wink:
Saturday was good and bad, the bad being having to do some household chores, the good being actually finding a place in Northamptonshire that sold 'Marine filler'! Midlands Chandlery in Braunston, not a million miles from the well known marina. This the first time I have ever been to a chandlers that was not in a total (s'cuse my french) buggers muddle. Everthing well laid out in nice aisles prices, clearly marked and very reasonable too. I noticed paint was about 70p cheaper than the same product on Ebay! Although I cannot vouch for the rest of the prices, however they are on the web ( http://www.midlandchandlers.co.uk/ )so it might be worth a look if you want some bits. Just one point they predominately cater for narrowboats but were not scathing when I said I had a tupperware boat :)

After all the running about etc. I did get around to applying the filler to that 'orrible 'ole, I did this by applying several layers gradually building it up and sanding in between. Each time checking with a straight edge (I use old steel rules, I have a 6", 12" & 24" I use depending on the area I have to fill, any filler is cleaned off using an old chisel) that the filler is not above the deck line. The final layer is applied slightly above the deck line and sanded to just below (about 2mm). As the deck is to be painted the edge was feathered & not stepped. I would leave a small step to give a edge for the gell coat & blend it in/feathering only the gel coat if I was not going to paint the repair.

With this done it was gel coat time, again, in a couple of layers. I made the mistake of using the plastic applicator, it does not work well on the final layer, a bit rough for my liking. Next time I will try a long haired paint brush which should give a smooth finish without the ridges.

That was Saturday done with, the sky opened again, so it was a mad dash with the tarp. Sunday came with a bright but cold start and a phone call to to say expect a visitation from the kids, Allthough not a total waste of restoration time, I was at least able to sand the gel I had applied, by hand! I am not one for hand finishing unless I have too, this is what machines are for :) . Initially I sand with a block with wet and dry ( small tip - if using wet, rub soap, hard bar type, on the wet and dry this helps keep the grit clear of paint so it lasts longer and the wet and dry will glide smoother). For the edges & corners I just use wet and dry wrapped around my fingers then I know how hard I am rubbing with less risk of cutting through the gel coat. So after a hour or two it was done ready for the deck paint.

The next good weekend will find me going over the topsides with the gel filler making good and with any luck give the final sanding in preperation for the primer, fingers crossed. That is me done for now I have about an hour left to tidy myself up before the kid's visitation, not to mention pacticing smiling and being nice. :wink:
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Postby hypnorm on Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:55 am

Looking good.
Tom my OH uses lots of marine Sikaflex with the boat, for various things, at the moment we have a boxfull for the sealing of the Seamaster windows. Also have various seals around too.
Hope fully we will get all the windows done this weekend and we are planning to stay on board too.
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Drippy windows

Postby gerbil on Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:04 pm

Hi my most Illustrious Forum Leader :)

Good luck with your windows and other leaky bits. However, if I may put my oar in, without rocking the boat. (Sorry had to say that :wink: ).

Now this is my own very personal opinion, others may not agree, it is a free world after all:- I am not much of a lover of tube type sealant. For the following reasons, it is messy, unless you are very very carefull, (I have seen some attempts that would have been better suited to filling cracks in the roads!). It will go hard and crack. For these reasons I have the following preferences.

Leaky windows: I use a 'crack cure', this is a low viscosity sealant almost like water, that will get into the smallest crack by capillary action. It is clear, so non obrusive. I have used 'Captain Tolly's Creeping crack cure' with success, provided the instructions are adhered too. It is a Kleeneezy product so quite easy to get hold of.

Deck fittings: I feel mastic tape is better, it never goes hard so the seal is almost ever lasting, it gives a little naturally, thus reducing the shock loads on the GRP and ensures water will not get between the laminates into the foam/balsa or whatever the sandwich fill is. However when the time comes to repaint the deck & you want to remove the fittings before hand, It is a bugger to get off! :lol:

Well those are a few of my thoughts and experiances. I guess we all have our own way of doing things, and what works for each of us is what we do.

Good luck with your period of live aboard, how I envy you! I'll get there one day :D
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Postby hypnorm on Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:46 pm

we are only weekend boaters we don't live on board, although we have both thought about it an its not really practical at the mometn
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Postby gerbil on Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:42 pm

Hi once again.

Well I guess a weekend boat is better than nothing, like us at the moment :( . One of these days we are going to sell up and buy a live'a'board, once the kids stop borowing from our savings and we are not needed as baby sitters! :wink:

In the meantime we will just gaze up at our poor forlorn little Freeman, & dream of those tranquil moments on the river, the phutt phutt BANG! of the little motor, the patter of rain drops on our sodden jacket, the gentle cry of " #*@*!!*?@*!, the wind has blown my cap in the water again!". Not to mention the thrilling sensation of the freezing water lapping your armpit as you try to remove another tesco trolly from your prop, and the swan adding insult to injury, by pecking at you hair and ear as you dangle over the transom. Ahh! Those blissfull days afloat... :D

Oh dear I feel quite nostalgic, I had better go into the garage and sand some wood or something to get this boat finished! :D

'Til next time
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Postby hypnorm on Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:19 pm

lol one reason why we sold our narrow beam Norman, next time we go on the canals we will be hiring..
not taking our tupperware on there again... doesnt do your stress levels any good!!
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Postby gerbil on Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:29 pm

I have heard taking a GRP boat on a canal can be a bit risky, so I doubt we will be doing much canal cruising. That aside, I do not feel like lifting a soaking wet Labrador out of a mucky canal because he descided to take a swim where there is only a shear bank side.
The idea is to get on the Nene, as I believe we can get to the Broads from there, although not a weekend cruise :) . I must admit having lived by the sea for most of my life & only sailed in the sea, river cruising is going to be a whole new experience (at least the waves should not be more than about 6 inches - hope).
Having said that I may at some time try the canal network as I also believe you can get from the GU canal to the Thames via the Oxford canal which I think is not far from where we live. This is of course once I can obtain a large enough supply of tranquilisers!
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Postby gancanny on Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:33 pm

hi gerbil

you really have had some cracking good posts, well done,

but may i put you right on one item in your last post.

there is no easy access from the river nene to the broads. the easiest is by lifting out and going by road.

you could go through the fen system, out into the wash, around the coast and into great yarmouth but with a small

freeman and a petrol engine it is not recomended.

grand union to the thames via the oxford canal is a highly recomended trip.


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Postby gerbil on Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:15 pm

Hi Alan

I thank you for the compliment, I guess I might be doing some thing right :o .

Thanks too for the guidance, although I'm gutted I was looking forward to a trip to the Broads. Although as you say the Oxford canal trip to the Thames is a good'un all my dreams a not dashed :) .

I must admit I have no intention of taking my little Freeman in the sea, having been there and done that with a day sailer & a larger yacht, I have nothing but respect for the great pond, especially having been caught out on the high side of a force 8. My then wife to be & I lost more than our sailing caps that day! At least we were able to make it into Fowey for the night, although we were not prepared for a night out! We had to nip into the town buy a few provisions and ending up eating our dinner on sauspan lids :lol:
I could go on for hours about that trip plus a few more, not to mention the building of my first boat, my early attempts of sailing and the trips I made in her. Though I guess I had better not seeing as this is a River Boating Forum :wink:

Thanks again Alan, maybe we'll pass comments again?
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